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It lives. It breathes, and it’s ready to take on the world.Image courtesy of David Jones @ Stock.xchng Or is it?

No, I’m not talking about my lifeless blog–although I can see why you might think that. I’m talking about my novel, and I’m worried …

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So, about my novel.

Last month I got back the last of my reader critiques for The Tempest’s Serenade and was thrilled that everyone seemed to like the story. Some readers were confused– some were very confused– but in general they found the characters to be compelling and the concept interesting enough to keep them turning the pages. I’m excited to start in on my next revision. It was scary to share a story that I felt was so broken, but I’m really glad I took the plunge.

Except …

Courtesy of 'magicmarie' @ stock.xchngeSomething surprising came up in the critiques. I’m finding that more than one reader has strongly suggested that, after nothing more than a polishing pass and a run through spell check, I self-publish The Tempest’s Serenade as it stands right now.

That’s wonderful, right?

Then why do I want to curl up into a ball muttering, “No No No No No no nonononononono …”?

How could I in good conscience perpetrate this mess upon the world? My readers are confused by the story. Hell, I’m confused by the story.

I had to walk away from my computer after I read that suggestion and do something else. I pulled the weeds out of my front yard. I took a long walk in the woods. And I pondered. Should I take that advice? Am I simply dragging my feet on this story? Should I let it go and move on to something else?

Eventually after consulting my playlist (where my Muse lives), I pulled myself together and realized that, ultimately, I am the warden of my own stories. No one else, not even writers I respect, can tell me what to do with them. I don’t even think an agent or a publisher can push me in a direction I don’t want to go in. I need to learn to be true to my vision, even if that vision is still fuzzy.

Does that make me an uppity artisté? Does that mean I will never make a dime writing fiction?

Good thing I like my day job, isn’t it? Because I’ve decided to be true to myself and proceed with another revision. I didn’t sit down to write A Story; I sat down to write this one. And I need to stop and think before I do something that feels wrong for me. Putting The Tempest’s Serenade out into the world with so many loose ends is something that feels wrong to me on a fundamental level.

Will I know when it’s finished? I think so. I hope so.

How about you, insecure writers? How do you know when it’s time to send your story out into the world? Am I crazy to keep banging away at this story?

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44 thoughts on “IWSG: It’s Alive!”

  1. Will says:
    August 6, 2014 at 6:59 am

    This is the heart of it, isn’t is Kristen? We’re all good, I think, with not taking negative advice from readers- don’t let them push your story where it doesn’t want to go, etc. But what story doesn’t want to get told? So it’s harder to resist this positive advice- it’s great, get it out there. Even your own story is against you!
    But there must be something behind that bit of smoke in your soul that you told us about. I think you should indeed wait, at least until you can see what that hesitation is. It could be you’ll find that it’s something which doesn’t stand in the way of publication. But I would advise, hesitantly, that you might not even wish to start the revision until you’ve unmasked it.
    I re-read my latest tale (going out now as four novellas over time) probably four times after it was thoroughly polished. Seriously, several re-reads just wondering… and I did take out maybe another 200 words none of which would have broken the tale. But I DID realize that towards the end, when lots of stuff happens in different places on the same night, that there was a slightly better chapter order I should be using. So you never know.
    In the end, someone famous said you’re never done writing your novel, you just stop. I see no reason you can’t stop in between too, while you think it out and hopefully see what that objection is. All the best!

    1. Kirsten says:
      August 6, 2014 at 8:03 pm

      Great thoughts on this, Will!
      I think I might be more worried about my hesitation if more of my readers had caught on to what I’m trying to get across, but they didn’t and I don’t blame them. I actually only shared the story because I felt I needed input.
      It really helped! I’m pretty sure that I have what I need to make the story work this time through. 🙂
      Your stories sound fascinating, BTW. I’ll be checking them out!

  2. Alex J. Cavanaugh (@AlexJCavanaugh) says:
    August 6, 2014 at 8:00 am

    When it’s really done and really ready, you will know. Trust your instincts.

    1. Kirsten says:
      August 6, 2014 at 8:04 pm

      Thank you so much for this, Alex. Feedback from published authors is exactly what I need right now! It’s good to know my instincts are right on target.

  3. melissamaygrove says:
    August 6, 2014 at 8:19 am

    I don’t think one is ever 100% certain of when it’s time to stop editing, but one almost always knows when it’s *not*.

    My 2c? Heed your gut. If even you, the author, are confused, you need to edit until the story is clear. Your line-by-line writing and your characterization / description (going on your blog posts) are WONDERFUL. But that won’t carry a story with a confusing plot, at least not for some readers.

    Don’t get into perpetual editing mode and never publish, but don’t put your story out before it’s ready either. Once it’s out there, you can’t take it back. 😉

    IWSG #184 until Alex culls the list again.

    1. Kirsten says:
      August 6, 2014 at 8:07 pm

      You pretty much nailed this, Melissa, because that’s exactly the kind of feedback that I’m getting. My readers loved the characterization and the descriptions, but the plot is … messy.
      I do feel that I’m getting closer with each revision though! There is light at the end of this tunnel. 🙂

  4. Loni Townsend says:
    August 6, 2014 at 9:10 am

    I fully support your decision to wait. You should be proud of your work, and if it’s creating a qualm, then giving it another revision won’t hurt you any. You know what your story should be like. Stay strong and revise on!

    Loni

    1. Kirsten says:
      August 6, 2014 at 8:10 pm

      🙂 Yay! It’s sometimes hard for me to figure out who to listen to (because I want to be a ‘teachable’ writer) but it sure helps to weigh the costs of waiting and working some more against the perils of seeking publication too soon.
      I’m beginning to see that I can trust my gut on this. 🙂

  5. Sammy D. says:
    August 6, 2014 at 9:13 am

    Yay, you’re back! For a moment. Maybe as insecure as ever, but back 🙂

    I don’t have any advice, but even with my minuscule posts I typically write and rewrite and, if they still don’t sit well, I go on to others that I never even knew I was thinking about until they come out of the end of my pen. Eventually some “gold nugget” emerges that is the key to finishing the re-write that wasn’t sitting well.

    I don’t know how that translates to your novel except my firm belief that being stuck isn’t a bad thing; you just have to figure out how YOU can work with it. Some tackle head-on; some putter around the edges; some deny it and publish; some move on and let it simmer till the “gold nugget” appears.

    You WILL be able to figure this one out. I’m 110% sure of that.

    1. Kirsten says:
      August 6, 2014 at 8:16 pm

      Writing a blog has helped me so much with the editing process! A few months ago I posted about how my post draft process works, and that’s pretty much the way it works with the novel–except of course the novel is way longer.
      Also, it needs things like plotting and character arcs … which also need editing.
      Good thing I love writing!

      And I’m hoping more posts will make it out of my draft folder and onto this screen in the coming weeks. 🙂

      1. Sammy D. says:
        August 6, 2014 at 9:12 pm

        I’ll be right here waiting for you and your El Muse-io 🙂

  6. Caffe Maggieato says:
    August 6, 2014 at 1:49 pm

    I think you’ll know when it’s finished, and you certainly have your CP’s to help you figure it out. Good luck!

    1. Kirsten says:
      August 6, 2014 at 8:18 pm

      Hi Caffe Maggieato,
      CPs are the best. I was terrified to let anyone see my story, but once I got over my insecurity I was hooked. Now I just have to decide which ones to listen too. 🙂
      Welcome to A Scenic Route!

      1. Caffe Maggieato says:
        August 7, 2014 at 12:53 pm

        I know what you mean. Most of the time, I’m still terrrified of showing my writing to anyone.

  7. Juneta says:
    August 6, 2014 at 3:32 pm

    I think that story has great potential. I think ‘being true to yourself” is something we should do in every walk of our life, not just writing. I think that will make YOU happy, and you will feel good about what you have done once you have made it the best you can make it. Just remember it does not have to be perfect, really no story is ever as good as we think it should be, so when you ready to let it go, let it fly, and as always I think you will be surprised.
    Juneta at Writer’s Gambit

    1. Kirsten says:
      August 6, 2014 at 8:22 pm

      This is such great advice, Juneta, because there are other areas of my life that I do feel good about. I can compare what I’ve done to achieve that with how I feel about this story.
      And I’m definitely prone to falling under the spell of Perfect–which is perhaps the reason I’ve begun to doubt my instincts.
      This story has surprised me a lot already!

  8. Shell Flower says:
    August 6, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    You will regret it if you send your story out into the world before you feel it is ready. Since you love your day job and aren’t desperate to make money or anything, you have no reason to rush. I can totally relate to this as I keep editing a story that seemed done (even to me) a long time ago. I’ve seen too many self-published stories that could have used work to go there yet. I really think you’ll know when it’s ready.

    1. Kirsten says:
      August 6, 2014 at 8:25 pm

      Yes, I know what you mean! Part of that could be that I’m still learning a LOT about writing, and with each pass I see obvious places that I can make the prose better. I would almost be able to let that stuff go, but weak plotting is something I just can’t live with.
      Fortunately, I’m still pretty excited about working on this story some more! 🙂

  9. nancyrae4 says:
    August 6, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    You know if you’re ready. I tend to go with my instinct which says don’t act on it if it makes you too nervous. So, for what it’s worth, take another look at TTS. There is NO rush.

    1. Kirsten says:
      August 6, 2014 at 8:29 pm

      I think that what floored me the most was that I really didn’t expect to hear that the story was in publishable shape, because I put it out there for beta readers asking for advice on how to fix it.
      It’s good to know that my instincts are still on track. 🙂 (And that the scenic route is a perfectly acceptable route to publication. 😉 )

  10. Shelly Tennyson Taylor says:
    August 6, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    You will know when its done. I don’t know how to explain the feeling, you will just know. And then your mind will be able to think about the next story.

    I too have a day job I enjoy and writing my story is not about throwing words on the page and dumping it on Amazon. I want my story to be the best it can be. It is a reflection of who I am.

    I say go with your gut and revise until you feel free to move on!

    1. Kirsten says:
      August 8, 2014 at 9:02 pm

      Hi Shelly,
      I’m glad to see that I’m not the only one who’s nervous about what ends up on Amazon with my name on it! It’s been hard for me to tell whether to keep at it or move on, but it’s been so encouraging to see improvement in the story that I think it will be worth it.
      Thanks for stopping by A Scenic Route! 🙂

  11. Mishka Jenkins says:
    August 7, 2014 at 6:37 am

    You have to trust yourself and writing! 🙂 You’ll know when it’s ready!

    1. Kirsten says:
      August 8, 2014 at 9:04 pm

      Thanks, Mishka! It’s scary being insecure, but I can see that I know more than I thought I did.

  12. Mike Schulenberg says:
    August 8, 2014 at 6:50 pm

    When I worked as a developer in the video game industry, we were never able to “finish” any of the projects I was a part of–the best we could do was get them good enough to ship. Every game that gets published could always be made better–more polish, more bug fixes, more balancing of the combat scenarios and rewards, etc. But no matter how much we try to make something perfect, perfection will always elude us, and there comes a point where its pursuit turns counter-productive. Speaking as a perfectionist, it’s sometimes difficult for me to know when that is 🙂

    I suspect a writing project is no different in this regard. Only you can decide when your book is ready to ship. When that time comes, I think you’ll know. Maybe when most of the fixes you think to make aren’t genuinely better than what you had before…they’re just different. While it might not always be an easy distinction to make, I believe that knowing when to let go and move on to the next project is part of the learning experience that makes us better writers–that makes us better at improving any complex skill set.

    But ultimately, if your instinct is telling you to hold onto your story for another revision pass, I think it’s good to listen to it. I’ve had some pretty good things happen when I followed my instinct without over-thinking what it was telling me 🙂

    1. Kirsten says:
      August 8, 2014 at 9:14 pm

      Hi Mike!
      It’s great to see you around these parts again. 🙂
      I think I get where you’re coming from when you say there’s a point when something is just ready to ship and endless fiddling will not make it any better. Strangely enough, I felt more like that before I even started the revision process! I didn’t know where to start fixing, so I could have just as well put it out there in the mess it was in.
      Now however I have some pretty specific ideas about what I want to change, and know what it will take to implement those changes. Maybe that’s why my instincts protested so vehemently when the suggestion was made to stop revising at this point.
      It’s tough, I think, to still be on the learning curve, when a lot of other writers I know are taking the plunge and publishing. I’m glad I posted about my doubts though, because consensus seems to be that I keep going. 🙂

      I hope everything is going well for you!

      1. Mike Schulenberg says:
        August 9, 2014 at 6:09 pm

        Yeah, it sounds like you’re making the smart choice, especially if there are specific items in your draft you know you want to address. I know it can be tough to see other writers publishing stuff when we’re still plugging away and having released anything yet. But we all learn and work at different paces, have different goals, and are at different points on the learning curve when we meet each other in the first place. Some writers may look like they’re hitting their goals faster than we are–and maybe they are–but they could also have been at it longer than us.

        And yeah, I’ve been doing pretty well. Been pretty busy with school and, in fact, it’s derailed my writing productivity for the last few months 🙁 But I’m slowly taking steps to get back on the writing train again.

      2. Kirsten says:
        August 11, 2014 at 1:24 pm

        Glad to see that your school is going well! The writing will still be there when you’re done, and I’ll be excited to read it. 🙂

  13. Kristina Stanley says:
    August 11, 2014 at 9:59 am

    This is certainly great news. If others are recommending publishing your novel, it must be good. What about submitting it to writing competitions? You may find this gives you an additional venue to get feedback, and if you get shortlisted or win, the attention of agents and publishers. If you decide to self publish, it gives you something to add to the marketing of the book. Just a thought 🙂

    1. Kirsten says:
      August 11, 2014 at 1:27 pm

      I’m so glad you wrote this advice, Kristina, because that’s exactly what I’ve done. I’m still waiting to hear the results–but I did final! (I’m not posting about it yet, because I’m curious if I placed at all.) The great thing about being a finalist is that I get feedback from actual editors so I’m pretty excited to get cracking on their suggestions.

      1. Kristina Stanley says:
        August 11, 2014 at 1:43 pm

        Even being a finalist gives you credit. It’s been quite helpful to me so far. Best of luck.

  14. dksalerni says:
    August 12, 2014 at 9:50 am

    Good for you! Whether you self-publish your book, query for agents, or submit to publishers on your own, you really need to make sure it’s the best book it can be. If you feel like it’s not ready, then it’s not. The ease of self-publishing has encouraged a lot of writers to take a “this is good enough” position on their writing. I was shocked to read on someone’s blog about how they’d just finished their first draft and had set a deadline of 2 weeks to revise, edit, and polish before publishing. TWO WEEKS? That’s it?

    Take your time and dig deep. You’ll know when it’s ready.

    1. Kirsten says:
      August 12, 2014 at 6:16 pm

      Hi dksalerni,
      Thank you for your awesome comment! (The part of me where I was going ‘No No nonono’ in my post is saying ‘Yes Yes Yesyesyes!’ as I read your thoughts. 🙂 )
      Although I was happy to know that another writer felt the story was ready to publish, I can see that my own misgivings have to take precedence in making such a decision. I’m pretty sure there is more treasure to uncover in this story if I’m willing to dig deep enough. 🙂

  15. jamieayres says:
    August 12, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    If I waited until I thought my stories were ready for the world, I’d have nothing published. My editors had to rip 18 Things & 18 Truths out of my cold, dead hands & declare, “It is finished!” Even today, I was still wishing I could go back & change some things in 18 Things, lol. I hope you’re better at it than I am 🙂 Good luck, friend!!

    1. Kirsten says:
      August 12, 2014 at 8:42 pm

      Thanks Jamie!
      I know there’s a point where I will have to let go if I want to be published, which is why I dither about this so much! Where is that point? Will I know when I’m there? Ack!
      I have set my finish point on this story at one more revision. If I don’t have it by then, I’m pretty sure I never will …

  16. armchairauthor says:
    August 13, 2014 at 12:45 am

    You could look at an author like Stephen King, still releasing revised versions of The Stand thirty years on 🙂 Sometimes a confusing story is my favorite kind, if a little thought yields its secrets.

    1. Kirsten says:
      August 15, 2014 at 9:40 pm

      No worries. I will always leave a loose end here and there for speculation–as those are my favorite kind of stories. 🙂 But right now, I’m pretty sure it’s just a bit too much of a good thing.

      It sure would be interesting to read a revised version of The Stand!

  17. Nissa Annakindt says:
    August 13, 2014 at 11:38 am

    I’ve heard that some (professional) writers believe that too much revision kills the freshness of the story. And at some point, one more revision feels a little like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. But only YOU can tell when your story has had too much revision or not enough. Trust in yourself.

    1. Kirsten says:
      August 15, 2014 at 9:43 pm

      Hi Nissa!
      Welcome to A Scenic Route. 🙂
      With each pass I can see that I’m keeping a little more of the story the same–so I’m hoping that counts as progress. But I think I know what you mean. There will be a point where I can’t tighten things up anymore. I hope I know when I get there!

  18. Sammy D. says:
    August 15, 2014 at 4:44 pm

    Hi Kirsten – I published a little shout-out post to you and Morpheus today. Just to say I miss you guys 🙂

    1. Kirsten says:
      August 15, 2014 at 9:44 pm

      Thank you so much, Sammy! I miss blogging too.
      (And it makes me wonder how I EVER posted almost every day in April?)
      I’ll be back soon. 🙂

  19. Lori L MacLaughlin says:
    August 15, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    I just read Sammy D.’s post about you and had to come visit. I have to agree with those who said go with your gut feeling. You’ll know when it’s done. Good luck with it!

    1. Kirsten says:
      August 15, 2014 at 9:46 pm

      Hi Lori,
      Thanks for swinging by A Scenic Route, and for chiming in. The majority seems to think I’ll know when it’s time to let go, and that is helping me so much!
      Isn’t Sammy D. wonderful? 🙂

      1. Lori L MacLaughlin says:
        August 15, 2014 at 9:51 pm

        Yes, she is.

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